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Nissan Ireland: EVs Fail To Make It On Irish Roads After Grant Delay



"Nissan promised to have 6,000 electricity-powered vehicles on roads in Ireland by the year 2012. But thanks to bureaucratic delays, not a single car has been registered in 2011.
Nissan currently has 400 orders for its all-electric Nissan LEAF vehicle. There are currently 58 Nissan LEAF cars in Ireland awaiting delivery, but the manufacturer is not able to release the cars until a pricing structure has been set in stone.
Without the government grant, the Nissan LEAF car has a list price of €34,995. With the grant in place, the Nissan LEAF’s list price would decrease to €29,995.
The grant was due to be in place by January of this year, but figures for the first quarter of 2011 show no electric cars have been registered.
A spokesperson for the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland, the organization in-charge of administering the scheme to distribute the grants, told The Irish Times that the Authority was still awaiting directions from Pat Rabbitte. Rabbitte, the new Minister for Energy and Natural Resources, has the final say-so in which way the Authority will go.
Rabbitte’s ministry reports that the scheme should be implemented soon enough.
The first Nissan LEAF car to be delivered in Europe was sold to a customer in Kerry in March 2011, but the car has yet to be officially registered.
As of March 2011, 40 public charging points have been introduced. ESB have committed to building 1,500 public charging points by the end of 2011."

Em: http://nissan-leaf.net/2011/04/03/nissa ... ant-delay/

E será que as outras marcas (que estao a desenvolver EVs que ainda nao chegaram ao mercado) não terão tb alguma cupla por este atraso? (Lobies, etc) da chegada do LEAF?

mikexilva Escreveu:E será que as outras marcas (que estao a desenvolver EVs que ainda nao chegaram ao mercado) não terão tb alguma cupla por este atraso? (Lobies, etc) da chegada do LEAF?

Quem sabe...a confusão está instalada

Mais uma noticia a falar disto no "Autobloog Green".

http://green.autoblog.com/2011/04/07/58 ... #c33710675

Nissan Leaf buyers in Ireland have been unable to take delivery of their electric hatchbacks because the sovereign state's promised plug-in vehicle incentive program has not been finalized. Grants of up to €5,000 ($7,120 U.S. at the current exchange rate) were to be offered on the purchase of plug-ins beginning on January 1st, 2011, but delays in implementing the scheme have resulted in zero electric vehicles being registered in Ireland so far this year.

Paul O'Sullivan, marketing director for Nissan Ireland, says that Irish buyers have placed 400 orders for the Leaf and 58 of the electric hatchbacks have already arrived from Japan. However, Nissan Ireland is unwilling to release the 58 vehicles until the state's plug-in incentive scheme is in place. The Leaf's MSRP in Ireland is €34,995 ($49,833 U.S.), but the proposed grant would effectively drop it down to €29,995 ($42,713 U.S.). It's smart to wait, since the government of Ireland reportedly won't guarantee retrospective payment of the grants if vehicles are registered before the scheme is finalized. Hat tip to Guillaume!

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PS: nos comentários falam em Portugal... porque será?

Las entregas de los Nissan Leaf en Irlanda paralizadas por culpa de las ayudas

Em Portugal deve-se estar a passar algo semelhante senão igual a isto:


"A pesar de que el gobierno irlandés ha aprobado una serie de ayudas para la promoción de la movilidad eléctrica, de hasta 5.000 euros por cada coche, tres meses después estas no han pasado del papel y es por ello que Nissan ha decidido congelar la primera remesa de 55 unidades llegadas a la isla hasta que estas se hagan efectivas.


Los compradores irlandeses han realizado 400 reservas en firme del Leaf a pesar de lo que Nissan no está dispuesta a liberar las primeras 58 unidades disponibles hasta que las ayudas sean entregadas, algo para lo que de momento y para desgracia de los impacientes compradores, no hay fecha.


Para complicar más el asunto, el gobierno no garantiza la devolución de las cantidades en caso de que los compradores hagan el esfuerzo de desembolsar de su propio bolsillo las ayudas para poder llevarse los coches a sus casas, lo que dificulta aún más la solución de un absurdo y grave problema provocado según las fuentes del ejecutivo irlandés "por las precauciones para que el programa de ayudas no viole ninguna normativa europea"

Em: http://www.forococheselectricos.com/201 ... af-en.html

"Nissan promised to have 6,000 electricity-powered vehicles on roads in Ireland by the year 2012. But thanks to bureaucratic delays, not a single car has been registered in 2011.
Nissan currently has 400 orders for its all-electric Nissan LEAF vehicle. There are currently 58 Nissan LEAF cars in Ireland awaiting delivery, but the manufacturer is not able to release the cars until a pricing structure has been set in stone.
Without the government grant, the Nissan LEAF car has a list price of €34,995. With the grant in place, the Nissan LEAF’s list price would decrease to €29,995.
The grant was due to be in place by January of this year, but figures for the first quarter of 2011 show no electric cars have been registered.
A spokesperson for the Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland, the organization in-charge of administering the scheme to distribute the grants, told The Irish Times that the Authority was still awaiting directions from Pat Rabbitte. Rabbitte, the new Minister for Energy and Natural Resources, has the final say-so in which way the Authority will go.
Rabbitte’s ministry reports that the scheme should be implemented soon enough.
The first Nissan LEAF car to be delivered in Europe was sold to a customer in Kerry in March 2011, but the car has yet to be officially registered.
As of March 2011, 40 public charging points have been introduced. ESB have committed to building 1,500 public charging points by the end of 2011."

Em: http://nissan-leaf.net/2011/04/03/nissa ... ant-delay/

Fui induzido, por várias opiniões neste Forum, que o atraso se devia aos incentivos. Se assim é pode ser que a partir da próxima semana, com a vinda dos técnicos da UE/FMI, as coisas fiquiem esclarecidas, isto é eles autorizam ou não.
Por outro lado, posso dizer com alguma certeza que, pelos menos parte do Governo não conhece/acredita nesta hipótese!
Por isso sugeri que se fosse falar com a NISSAN, para evitar este tipo de comentário que algúem escreveu:"Vamos a ver se a "tropa" não se "chateia" um dia a sério...acho que o copo está quase a transbordar", pois que:"Somos pessoas de bem e creio que concorda comigo que queremos levar isto a bem e como tal vamos aguardar por muito que isto nos custe"
AMEN

Lá como cá mas penso que eles terão um pouco mais esperança de resolver o problema do que nós



"DESPITE THE fanfare surrounding the introduction of electric cars to Ireland, buyers have been unable to take delivery as the promised grant scheme for such cars is not in place, three months after it was due to come into effect.

The Government has set a target of having 6,000 electric vehicles on the roads by 2012, but no electric cars have been registered so far this year, according to figures released yesterday by the Society for the Irish Motor Industry.

Grants of up to €5,000 were to be offered on the purchase of electric cars from January 1st, but a spokesman for Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland, which was given the task of implementing the scheme, said it was still awaiting ministerial direction. It added that the final decision rested with Minister for Energy and Natural Resources Pat Rabbitte.

A spokesman for the Minister said the scheme was in the final stage of preparation and attributed the delay to ensuring there were no issues with EU competition rules on State aid. “It is expected the scheme will be open for business in the very near future.”

The scheme was announced last April by then minister Eamon Ryan. In December, while signing a memorandum of understanding between the Government, the ESB and two other car firms preparing to launch electric vehicles in Ireland. Mr Ryan reiterated that the grants would be available from the start of this year.

Yesterday he said the initial delay was “normal enough” but that it was his understanding that the scheme was ready to be introduced once the vehicles started to arrive.

Paul O’Sullivan, marketing director for Nissan Ireland, said it already had 400 orders for its all-electric Leaf model, with 58 cars in the State awaiting delivery. However, it had been unable to release these cars until the pricing structure was guaranteed. The Leaf has a list price of €34,995, but with the grant in place this should fall to €29,995.

The authority said it could not guarantee retrospective payment of the grants if cars were registered before the scheme was operational.

Ireland was intended to be one of the first countries in Europe to have the latest electric cars on the road. One Leaf was sold to a customer in Kerry last month, the first to be delivered in Europe, but Nissan said it had still not been formally registered.

The company also has several demonstrator models with dealers.

Mitsubishi, which supplied 15 of its i-MiEV electric cars to the ESB last year, said it had not started customer sales as yet, so was unaware of the problem with the grant system.

Meanwhile, despite an ESB commitment to introduce 1,500 public charging points by the end of the year, just 40 have been installed."

Em: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/fro ... 52495.html

Government finalises electric vehicle grant scheme.

Ora ai está um Governo em dificuldades que cumpre o que promete. Pena ser na Irlanda

Government finalises electric vehicle grant scheme. Photo: ESB ecar, which will be eligible for the now-approved electric vehicle grant scheme

"The electric vehicle grant scheme has been approved by Government. The scheme, which had been held up over the past few months, now means that all vehicles with CO2 emissions of less than 75g CO2 per km will be eligible for a purchase subsidy of up to €5,000 - welcome news for Ireland's clean transport agenda.

Qualifying vehicles sold after 1 January 2011 are eligible for the grant, and a total of €5m has been allocated. All-electric cars such as the Nissan LEAF and the ESB ecar, which is powered by Mitsubishi i-MiEV, will be eligible for the grant scheme. This means they will cost the consumer about €29,995 following the €5,000 grant reduction.

The Government is offering these grants through Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland (SEAI) in addition to the VRT reliefs and Accelerated Capital Allowances currently available for battery electric vehicles (BEV) and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEV).

The scheme is cash limited and will operate on a 'first come, first served' basis. The operation of the scheme in 2012 will be a matter for consideration in the context of Budget 2012, according to the Government.

Information about the grant process is available from SEAI, which has also published a Buyers Guide and a Cost of Ownership Calculator to aid individuals interested in purchasing electric vehicles.

Speaking at today’s announcement, Energy Minister Pat Rabbitte TD said that this scheme will lay the foundation for greener transport.

“Electric vehicles will reduce Ireland's reliance on imported fossil fuels in the transport area and will also in future play an important role in reducing our transport sector emissions."

Clean energy leadership
The Government has set an aim of having 10pc of vehicles (approximately 220,000 cars) powered or part powered by electricity from the grid by 2020.

ESB is taking charge of the initial rollout of up to 1,500 charge points nationwide by December 2011 and there are plans to install up to 30 fast charge points across Ireland by the end of 2011.

And for the first 2,000 ecars that are purchased, ESB is also going to install a home charger for free.

"Typically, the running costs of an electric car are one-fifth the cost of the price of a petrol car to run. So, if you are charging a car at night using night-rate electricity, it is only two to three cents per kW hour. The savings would be roughly €1,500 per year on fuel, depending on mileage," explains Paul Mulvaney, managing director, ESB ecars."

Em: http://www.siliconrepublic.com/green-te ... finalises/