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Primeiros compradores do Leaf sentem-se muito felizes

Mensagem por ruimegas » 23 mar 2011, 17:43

Primeiros compradores do Leaf sentem-se muito felizes (First to Buy Electric Cars Feeling Pretty Good)
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Michael J. Walsh does not use fossil fuels in his Nissan Leaf, an all-electric car. Nissan claims the car will go 100 miles on a charge - enough to cover Walsh's 60-mile roundtrip commute to work.

"Gas prices are spiking and drivers are fretting. But not Roy Olson.

The Rancho Mirage, Calif., retiree drives a plug-in hybrid electric Chevrolet Volt, which he said runs for about 40 miles on battery before switching to traditional fuel. Because he charges the car nightly, Olson has yet to visit a gas station.
"Having our future in our own hands is really important," he said. "I'm insulated from what's going on in the Middle East. If I had to pick one reason for getting this car, that's probably No. 1."
Olson is part of a small group of auto fanatics, environmentalists and technology enthusiasts who bought the first batch of Volts and Nissan's all-electric Leafs that rolled out in December. So far, several hundred have reached drivers, including talk show host Jay Leno and actress Alyssa Milano, with tens of thousands on waiting lists.
Chevrolet has sold fewer than 1,000 Volts; the numbers for the Leaf are around 200. Chevrolet and Nissan said they expect sales to grow as they ramp up production this year. Even so, the cars will barely register among the 13 million vehicles Americans are expected to purchase this year.
The early adopters are no longer wringing their hands over their decision to be the first to drive the vehicles.
"I could have looked very sensible or very dumb in the decision to buy this car," said Michael J. Walsh of his new ocean blue Leaf. "It's looking like the former."
Even if gas hits $5 a gallon, electricity rates for charging won't change much, he said, and drivers dependent on foreign oil -- and vulnerable to foreign conflicts -- may start to covet the battery-powered cars they once mocked.
"We're at the tip of the spear," said Walsh, 49, of Garden Grove, Calif. "First, people will cut back on driving, and then they'll look for alternatives."
But cruising around in an electric vehicle hasn't been an entirely smooth ride. Drivers have reported difficulty with home and public charging systems and trimmed travel plans because of limited battery range.
The cars aren't cheap. Olson nearly got sticker shock from the Volt's price tag: $40,000 before government incentives that shaved $7,500 off of the cost.
Same for Walsh and his Leaf, with a sticker price of $34,000 before incentives. "The economy is iffy and we already had another car that's working fine," he said. "It probably doesn't make any financial sense whatsoever. But then again, this is a purely green purchase."
Walsh, a self-described technology geek, thought his early adopter days were over after he "got burned" buying massive satellite dishes and $1,600 brick-size cell phones that quickly grew outdated. But still he longed for an electric vehicle.
The $100,000 Tesla Roadster was out of his price range. He nixed the Volt and the Toyota Prius hybrid because both used fossil fuels. He considered retrofitting an existing car or importing an electric vehicle from abroad.
Then came the Leaf, one of the first mass-marketed all-electric cars for sale from a major automaker.
"It was something I had to be a part of right away," Walsh said. "Even 15 years ago, I realized that EVs were going to be the next big thing, the Car 2.0."
Some drivers remember the last brief heyday of electric cars, with the debut of General Motors' EV1 in 1996. The program was scrapped in 1999 and the cars were crushed due to low demand, according to the automaker.
This time around, most electric vehicle early adopters are hoping for a better reception.
President Obama wants 1million such vehicles on the road by 2015. Automakers including Honda, Toyota and Mitsubishi are scrambling to roll out electric models.
"For new technology to succeed, it can't be equal -- it has to be better," said Leno, who has driven his Volt more than 1,200 miles and featured an electric Ford Focus on his NBC show.
Battery-powered vehicles could turn gas guzzlers into recreational curiosities, he joked, "like snowmobiles -- something for the guys to drive around on the weekends."
First, though, automakers must win over American drivers who are wary of expensive and potentially fickle batteries. Consumer Reports found last week that in cold weather, the Volt's battery lasted just 23 to 28 miles instead of up to 40 as Chevrolet had estimated.
"It's not really much of a money saver in many places," reviewers concluded. "Cheaper electricity or more expensive gas could tip the scales in its favor. For now, it seems that owning a Volt is an expensive way to be green."
Nissan says its Leaf battery lasts 100 miles per charge, so Walsh must be diligent about planning his schedule around his 60-mile roundtrip commute. He can afford a short lunch trip but rations air conditioning because it depletes the battery more quickly.
Walsh said he won't buy another electric car unless it can make it to Las Vegas on one charge.
"It's not range anxiety nor an inconvenience, just an awareness of what I have to do," he said. "But I haven't pushed the envelope too much."
Olson said he ran into kinks at home, where he wanted a 240-volt charger that would power up the car in four hours. He ended up with a slower 120-volt system that he set up himself after delays with the installation company.
Aside from installation kinks, so far so good, Olson said. His iPhone can access the Volt's owner's manual, unlock the car, start it remotely and send him reminder texts about charging. Though his Volt is neither fast nor flashy, Olson said, the car is quieter than a bicycle and stays cool with its silver paint.
Even his wife has come around.
"Now, she drives it most of the time and calls it her car," he said. "Just shows that you've got to be willing to take a chance on things."

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Re: Primeiros compradores do Leaf sentem-se muito felizes

Mensagem por batalha » 23 mar 2011, 19:18

Estas são os principais motivos pelos quais ainda não desisti da compra, perceber o grau de satisfação dos actuais donos. Pois a nissan ainda nem um carro para test drive me arranjou :evil:

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Re: Primeiros compradores do Leaf sentem-se muito felizes

Mensagem por ruimegas » 23 mar 2011, 19:32

batalha Escreveu:Estas são os principais motivos pelos quais ainda não desisti da compra, perceber o grau de satisfação dos actuais donos. Pois a nissan ainda nem um carro para test drive me arranjou :evil:
É incrível de facto :evil:
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Proprietários: Algum arrependimento?

Mensagem por ruimegas » 23 mar 2011, 19:41

Proprietários: Algum arrependimento?

Interessantes os comentários destes proprietários do Nissan Leaf nos EUA
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 948#p71948
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Re: Primeiros compradores do Leaf sentem-se muito felizes

Mensagem por pemifer » 23 ago 2016, 11:42

Encontrei este tópico, acho que faz mais sentido hoje do que na altura.
Poderíamos ter num único tópico os sentimentos dos mais antigos ;)

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Re: Primeiros compradores do Leaf sentem-se muito felizes

Mensagem por Apr » 23 ago 2016, 11:50

Sem dúvida! Os novos proprietários ainda estão contaminados pela excitação inicial. Eu, apesar de o ter há 2 anos ainda estou bastante... contaminado. :mrgreen:

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Re: Primeiros compradores do Leaf sentem-se muito felizes

Mensagem por mjr » 23 ago 2016, 18:55

5 anos sem olhar para trás, sempre um sorriso ao ligar o carro e começar a andar :D
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Tesla Model 3 LR preto entregue em 2019-03-06. 125000 km em 2023-12-22.
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Re: Primeiros compradores do Leaf sentem-se muito felizes

Mensagem por pnunes » 23 ago 2016, 20:04

Só me irrita quando me perguntam: quanto é que isso da em velocidade máxima :lol:
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Re: Primeiros compradores do Leaf sentem-se muito felizes

Mensagem por RJSC » 23 ago 2016, 20:10

O meu sorriso apaga-se quando me lembro que a Nissan não me vende outra bateria que não a de 24kWh quando precisar de trocar, apesar de a de 30 kWh encaixar na carroçaria. :|
Fora isso... E então depois de ter andado numa carroça de petróleo no trabalho, mal pego no Leaf para voltar pra casa sinto-me logo mais leve.

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Re: Primeiros compradores do Leaf sentem-se muito felizes

Mensagem por BrunoAlves » 23 ago 2016, 20:25

pnunes Escreveu:Só me irrita quando me perguntam: quanto é que isso da em velocidade máxima :lol:
A mim irrito-me quando me dizem "140km? Mas isso não dá para ir ao Algarve!"
E olha que até dá e até já veio :mrgreen:
Se forem conduzir, não bebam. Se forem beber, chamem-me!!! :D

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